“Ambassador Sondland is a big personality,” said former U.S. special envoy to Ukraine Kurt Volker, who testified a day earlier.
Follow along with developments here:
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8:00 pm. While the hearing is over, there is now an extra session in which Democrats on the House Intelligence Committee are voting down a variety of requests from Republicans for subpoenas of Hunter Biden, the whistleblower, and others.
7:25 pm. Here's the headlines from tonight's hearing so far:
+ New emails show Ukraine embassy asked on July 25 what was going on with military aid
+ State Dept official says at a July 26 meeting OMB said the President had directed a delay on that aid.
Trump-Zelensky call was July 25.
7:00 pm. Here is the video of Hale's testimony with respect to the July 26 meeting where an OMB official said the President had authorized a hold on the military aid for Ukraine.
Under Secretary Hale told me that President Trump himself requested the hold on Ukrainian military aid.
— Rep. Terri A. Sewell (@RepTerriSewell) November 20, 2019
This aid is critically important not only to Ukrainian national security, but also American security and interests across the globe. pic.twitter.com/5aEDcb6qaF
6:55 pm. One of the GOP arguments is that Ukraine did not know the military aid was on hold. But it's clear that the July 25 Trump-Zelensky phone call had the Kyiv government concerned.
Few people thought Laura Cooper would be a bombshell witnesses, but her timeline -- that she says staffers alerted her to after her deposition transcript came out -- means Ukrainians knew about aid situation on day of Trump-Zelensky call. Undercuts big GOP defense they didn't.
— Karoun Demirjian (@karoun) November 20, 2019
6:45 pm. While this is a fairly dry hearing which reminds me of covering a regular Congressional oversight hearing, there have been some kernels of news. Along with Cooper's statement, Hale says at an interagency meeting on July 26, officials were told that military aid was on hold “because the President had so directed through the Acting Chief of Staff."
6:10 pm. Cooper says her Pentagon staff found a series of emails in which there were concerns relayed by Ukraine officials about why military aid was on hold. Two of the emails were sent to State Dept on July 25. That was the same day President Trump spoke with the Ukraine leader.
5:40 pm. After almost a two hour break, the second hearing is underway. Pentagon official Laura Cooper and State Department official David Hale are testifying.
3:45 pm. The hearing has ended. There was prolonged applause for Sondland as he left the room.
3:15 pm. Sondland says it would have been better for a Trump-Zelensky meeting to take place without conditions, saying he thought their chemistry would have been very good, describing the Ukraine leader as smart, funny, and charming.
3:10 pm. The GOP frustration grows with Sondland at this hearing. Rep. Jim Jordan R-OH to Sondland: "You said there were three quid pro quos but there weren't."
2:20 pm. It's now open season on Sondland from the Republican side. Rep. Mike Turner R-OH blasted Sondland, calling his testimony 'confusing' and 'somewhat circular.'
Turner was followed by Rep. Brad Wenstrup R-OH, who rebuked Sondland as well. House Republicans moved quickly to get the Turner Q&A out on social media.
Rep. Brad Wenstrup: "Two plus two does equal four. But in reality, two presumptions plus two presumptions does not equal one fact. The President did tell you, no quid pro quo. That's a fact. And another fact, no quid pro quo occurred." pic.twitter.com/1ti8qmDLqJ
— ForAmerica (@ForAmerica) November 20, 2019
WATCH: @RepMikeTurner is on 🔥
— Oversight Committee Republicans (@GOPoversight) November 20, 2019
(again) pic.twitter.com/1zFj3WyANF
2:00 pm. Rep. Jim Jordan R-OH echoes earlier GOP complaints to Sondland about why he didn't use a quote from the President in today's opening statement where Mr. Trump denied any quid pro quo.
1:50 pm. Giuliani tweeted something about Sondland at 12:29 pm, and then deleted it. Now, about an hour later, he has re-posted the same tweet. Not clear what changed, or what was wrong with the original missive.
I came into this at Volker’s request. Sondland is speculating based on VERY little contact. I never met him and had very few calls with him, mostly with Volker.
— Rudy Giuliani (@RudyGiuliani) November 20, 2019
Volker testified I answered their questions and described them as my opinions, NOT demands. I.E., no quid pro quo!
1:40 pm. Sondland is back. The White House has just issued a statement on his testimony, pushing back on his 'quid pro quo' assertions.
1:09 pm. The committee is taking a break for lunch. Republicans had so little to offer between Nunes and Castor that they did not use their full 30 minutes.
1:05 pm. Giuliani has already deleted his 12:29 pm tweet about Sondland's testimony.
12:50 pm. Rep. Devin Nunes R-CA has again been making the GOP point today that President Trump clearly had a reason to be mad at Ukraine over what happened in 2016. One of the things which happened was the downfall of his campaign manager, Paul Manafort.
When Nunes says Ukrainians were trying to "dirty up" the Trump campaign; that is in part a reference to accurate reporting by the AP and others that forced Manafort out of the Trump campaign and would eventually result in criminal charges against him. https://t.co/ufSPttSfQM
— Byron Tau (@ByronTau) November 20, 2019
12:35 pm. Democrats clearly feel today's testimony has played in their favor.
Gordon Sondland, welcome to the resistance.
— Earl Blumenauer (@repblumenauer) November 20, 2019
12:30 pm. Giuliani joins the President in downplaying the role of Sondland.
I came into this at Volker’s request. Sondland is speculating based on VERY little contact. I never met him and had very few calls with him, mostly with Volker.
— Rudy Giuliani (@RudyGiuliani) November 20, 2019
Volker testified I answered their questions and described them as my opinions, NOT demands. I.E., no quid pro quo!
12:15 pm. The GOP effort to counter Sondland is to say that he has no evidence to back up his assertions.
Republican Counsel Castor: "You don't have records. You don't have your notes because you didn’t take notes. You don't have a lot of recollections. This is like the trifecta of unreliability. Isn't that true?
— CSPAN (@cspan) November 20, 2019
Ambassador Gordon Sondland: "I think I filled in a lot of blanks." pic.twitter.com/0pQc4zP4nD
12:00 pm. Here are the comments by President Trump about Sondland as he left the White House today.
President Trump reacts to Ambassador Sondland's #ImpeachmentHearings Testimony
— CSPAN (@cspan) November 20, 2019
“I don’t know him very well. I have not spoken to him much. This is not a man I know well. He seems like a nice guy though.” pic.twitter.com/eijyVKWQ2b
11:45 am. The GOP response in the hearing (and outside) is that President Trump never directly told Sondland to do anything.
Q: The President never told you about pre-conditions for a White House meeting.
Sondland: "Personally, no."
Sondland: "Pres. Trump never told me directly that the aid was conditioned on the meetings. The only thing we got directly from Giuliani was that the Burisma and 2016 elections were conditioned on the White House meeting. The aid was my own personal guess" https://t.co/76PEI9Q3ut pic.twitter.com/DlQ8rIzzfO
— ABC News Politics (@ABCPolitics) November 20, 2019
11:30 am. President Trump is now 45 minutes behind schedule for his departure from the White House. He is headed today to Texas.
The president, who was supposed to leave the White House for Texas at 10:45 a.m., has yet to emerge, per @ArdenFarhi
— Kathryn Watson (@kathrynw5) November 20, 2019
11:25 am. Nunes starts the GOP time by focusing not on anything Sondland said in his testimony so far today, focusing on Republican allegations that Ukraine was 'out to get him' during the 2016 elections.
First question from Nunes on this line.
Sondland: "I am not aware of it."
Nunes keeps going with more.
Sondland: "I am not aware of it."
11:20 am. During the break, Democrats went to the TV cameras stationed outside.
House Intelligence Chairman Adam Schiff: "Today's testimony is among the most significant evidence to date. ... We also have heard, for the first time, that knowledge of this scheme was pervasive" https://t.co/YLlWBVLzly pic.twitter.com/D4Go0UPWNM
— CNN Politics (@CNNPolitics) November 20, 2019
11:15 am. Again in this impeachment hearing process, viewers on Fox News are getting some different messages.
Ken Starr on Fox: "This obviously has been one of those bombshell days."
— Zeke Miller (@ZekeJMiller) November 20, 2019
11:00 am. A light moment in the hearing, as Sondland says he and President Trump tend to communicate with words that probably aren't for kids.
Daniel Goldman asks if Sondland said to President Trump that President Zelensky "loves your ass."
— CSPAN (@cspan) November 20, 2019
Ambassador Sondland: "Sounds like something I would say. That's how President Trump and I communicate. A lot of four-letter words. In this case a three-letter." pic.twitter.com/aHx5a5ma01
10:47 am. On the Drudge Report. It's not the greatest of headlines for the President on what's usually a favorable website.
10:45 am. Sondland said the President and Giuliani wanted Ukraine to publicly announce the Burisma / Bidens / Crowdstrike-2016 investigations.
But Sondland says that doesn't mean Ukraine actually had to undertake the investigations.
10:35 am. Critics of the President in Congress say the testimony today from Sondland is a big, big deal.
This is the smoking gun. Period. Full stop.
— David Cicilline (@davidcicilline) November 20, 2019
Ambassador Sondland has eviscerated the Trump/Republican narrative.
— Justin Amash (@justinamash) November 20, 2019
10:20 am. Sondland says Secretary of State Pompeo was up to date with the Giuliani/Trump efforts all along.
Sondland says he raised the delay in aid with Vice President Pence on September 1.
10:15 am. Sondland has finished with his opening statement. There is a lot of explosive testimony there, especially Sondland saying that 'everyone was in the loop' about the President seeking investigations from Ukraine.
NEW: Ambassador Sondland confirms quid-pro-quo and says President Trump, Chief of Staff Mulvaney, Secretary of State Pompeo, and Energy Secretary Perry were aware of it.
— Yahoo News (@YahooNews) November 20, 2019
"Everyone was in the loop. It was no secret." pic.twitter.com/73sUnOfQwQ
10:05 am. Was there a quid pro quo involving Ukraine? Sondland says, in one sense, the answer is yes.
10:00 am. Sondland says he was surprised to see the rough transcript of the July 25 call the President had with the leader of Ukraine, because he had not been told about the fact that President Trump mentioned investigations related to Biden/Burisma/Crowdstrike in the call.
9:50 am. Sondland repeatedly says that State Department officials wanted no part of Giuliani being involved in diplomatic work. But the President did. So, they had to play the hand they were dealt (Sondland's description).
9:40 am. Democrats immediately seize on the 'quid pro quo' description by Sondland.
Wow. There it is.
— Chris Murphy (@ChrisMurphyCT) November 20, 2019
In his opening statement, Sondland says:
a. U.S. support for Ukraine was absolutely dependent on investigations into Trump's political rivals. "Was there a quid pro quo? The answer is yes."
b. And Trump directed it all. "We followed the President's orders."
9:27 am. Sondland uses the term “quid pro quo” to describe what was going on at three different points in his prepared testimony.
9:25 am. Sondland will also show that Vice President Pence was in that loop as well.
9:20 am. Sondland says multiple times - “Everyone was in the loop.”
9:15 am. Sondland says it has been difficult to come up with answers because the White House and State Department have not helped him get documents and phone records.
9:10 am. The hearing is underway. Sondland's statement is going to provide some interesting moments in questioning from both parties. Here is the Ambassador's recount of the July 26 unsecured cell call to President Trump from a restaurant in Kyiv.
9:00 am - The opening statement of Sondland is now available at the following link.
8:40 am. Someone asked me on Facebook what the advantage is of actually being in the hearing room. In one way, it is being a witness to history. But not seeing the TV feed could put you at a disadvantage, as many others watch every facial twitch, frown, and smile on the faces of the witnesses and lawmakers.
When I got here into the room this morning, I found the still photographers had taken my power plug spot, and a TV crew has taken my audio feed. So, I had to deal with that, and switch things around. If I were back in my booth in either the House or Senate side of the Capitol, everything would be just fine. I could stand, go to the bathroom, have lunch, etc. Here is my “view” of the dais.
8:10 am. The folks at Fox and Friends do not buy the testimony that President Trump talks loud and could be overheard on his cell phone.
Brian Kilmeade: "I find it hard to believe that people just accept that you could hear both sides of a phone call three thous -- or five thousand miles away. I've never heard both sides of a phone call when you have it to your ear." pic.twitter.com/PyxgDPoc60
— Bobby Lewis (@revrrlewis) November 20, 2019
8:00 am. A reminder of the testimony so far, is that Sondland called up President Trump from a restaurant in Ukraine, and spoke to him on an unsecured cell phone. In that call, US embassy staffer David Holmes testified that he could easily hear the President's voice, and hear what was being discussed with Sondland - investigations - which Mr. Trump wanted from the Ukraine government.
The Holmes testimony can be found at this link.
Holmes tells Jordan there's no doubt he heard the President press Sondland about Ukraine beginning the investigations Mr. Trump wanted pic.twitter.com/NleNIgHbM0
— Jamie Dupree (@jamiedupree) November 19, 2019
7:50 am. The Sondland phone call with President Trump is going to get a lot of attention today - and rightfully so.
.@JoaquinCastrotx asks re July 26 call and whether Volker doubted Sondland’s claims re having a direct line to Trump.
— Eli Stokols (@EliStokols) November 20, 2019
Volker: “Sondland is a big personality and sometimes says things that might be bigger than life...
But “I believed that he could speak with the president.”
7:45 am. Most readers probably know Sondland's name from the impeachment / Ukraine controversy, but don't really know all of the details. There's some interesting stuff which has GOP lawmakers a bit uneasy, because the script today may not be that obvious at first.
Sondland, a wealthy hotelier Trump tapped as his ambassador to the European Union, is more directly entangled than any witness yet in the Republican president’s efforts to get Ukraine to investigate Joe Biden and Democrats in the 2016 election. https://t.co/jOoEyt6XtV
— Eric Tucker (@etuckerAP) November 20, 2019
7:35 am. It's not just Gordon Sondland testifying today, starting at 9 am. And there is another hearing on Thursday. Like Tuesday, it would be no surprise for me if the hearings are still going at 8 pm - which is when the Democratic debate in Atlanta is set to begin. That would a split screen political Super Bowl.
These are the witnesses who have yet to publicly testify this week in the impeachment inquiry:
— NPR (@NPR) November 20, 2019
Wednesday:
- Gordon Sondland
- Laura Cooper
- David Hale
Thursday:
- Fiona Hill
- David Holmeshttps://t.co/meQdWSpiQ4
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